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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.preservationsound.com/new-video-the-4-track-in-2013-featuring-john-panos-aka-kings/#comment-569327&quot;&gt;Aramis Ponder&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Aramis.  No sorry we took them down. too many trolls.  youtube is a nightmare.  sorry.]]></description>
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<p>Hi Aramis.  No sorry we took them down. too many trolls.  youtube is a nightmare.  sorry.</p>
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		By: Aramis Ponder		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Mar 2019 22:51:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.preservationsound.com/new-video-the-4-track-in-2013-featuring-john-panos-aka-kings/#comment-177719&quot;&gt;chris&lt;/a&gt;.

Chris do you still have this video with John Panos?? I have been trying to watch it again but it’s been deleted from YouTube. I used to watch it all the time and would love to see it again.]]></description>
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<p>Chris do you still have this video with John Panos?? I have been trying to watch it again but it’s been deleted from YouTube. I used to watch it all the time and would love to see it again.</p>
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		By: Tom Fine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Sep 2013 16:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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Hey Chris, 

Regarding the PT-6, I think you want to use something akin to the ancient brown-oxide low-bias tapes of that era. Ampex/Quantegy 632 or 642 might do the trick. I think a high output tape of the late-analog era would have problems with bias and erasure on a 1950s tape deck.  And maybe back-coated won&#039;t work as well with that transport?

I&#039;m not sure who&#039;s expert on those machines. Maybe ask John French at JRF Magnetic. There is a lot of knowledge about Ampex, Studer and a few other tape machine brands. But Magnecorder was never ubiquitous enough, and got out of the tape machine business so long ago. So I&#039;m not sure how much living knowledge exists on those machines. It&#039;s too bad Bert Whyte is long dead, he was the man on those machines.

-- Tom Fine]]></description>
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<p>Hey Chris, </p>
<p>Regarding the PT-6, I think you want to use something akin to the ancient brown-oxide low-bias tapes of that era. Ampex/Quantegy 632 or 642 might do the trick. I think a high output tape of the late-analog era would have problems with bias and erasure on a 1950s tape deck.  And maybe back-coated won&#8217;t work as well with that transport?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure who&#8217;s expert on those machines. Maybe ask John French at JRF Magnetic. There is a lot of knowledge about Ampex, Studer and a few other tape machine brands. But Magnecorder was never ubiquitous enough, and got out of the tape machine business so long ago. So I&#8217;m not sure how much living knowledge exists on those machines. It&#8217;s too bad Bert Whyte is long dead, he was the man on those machines.</p>
<p>&#8212; Tom Fine</p>
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		By: chris		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Sep 2013 12:15:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.preservationsound.com/new-video-the-4-track-in-2013-featuring-john-panos-aka-kings/#comment-178754&quot;&gt;Tim Tkachyk&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks man!  Got some really great ones coming up this fall, keep watching and pls spread em around!  best, c.]]></description>
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<p>Thanks man!  Got some really great ones coming up this fall, keep watching and pls spread em around!  best, c.</p>
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		By: chris		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Sep 2013 12:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.preservationsound.com/new-video-the-4-track-in-2013-featuring-john-panos-aka-kings/#comment-179435&quot;&gt;Tom Fine&lt;/a&gt;.

Got it; that makes sense.  Def gonna hunt for one of these...  thanks Tom - hey BTW - do you have any sense of which model of 1/4&quot; tape (7&quot; reel, if that matters...) would give the best quality with my ancient magnecord PT6 (it&#039;s a 7.5 ips model).  I don&#039;t wanna overspend but I honestly have no idea... i used to use 456 and 499 back in the day with my 1/2&quot; machine, but that was am 80&#039;s tascam...  Any thoughts pls LMK!  thanks - c.]]></description>
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<p>Got it; that makes sense.  Def gonna hunt for one of these&#8230;  thanks Tom &#8211; hey BTW &#8211; do you have any sense of which model of 1/4&#8243; tape (7&#8243; reel, if that matters&#8230;) would give the best quality with my ancient magnecord PT6 (it&#8217;s a 7.5 ips model).  I don&#8217;t wanna overspend but I honestly have no idea&#8230; i used to use 456 and 499 back in the day with my 1/2&#8243; machine, but that was am 80&#8217;s tascam&#8230;  Any thoughts pls LMK!  thanks &#8211; c.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Sep 2013 11:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.preservationsound.com/new-video-the-4-track-in-2013-featuring-john-panos-aka-kings/#comment-179433&quot;&gt;chris&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Chris:

See page 6 of the manual:
http://tascam.com/content/downloads/products/325/130_manual.pdf
They actually did a nice automation thing with the monitoring, which can be overridden at any time with the front panel button. When it&#039;s in rec-pause, it automatically monitors the source. When it&#039;s in rec, it switches to monitor the tape. When it&#039;s in play, it monitors the tape. The front panel button allows switching back and forth by the user.

-- Tom Fine]]></description>
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<p>Hi Chris:</p>
<p>See page 6 of the manual:<br />
<a href="http://tascam.com/content/downloads/products/325/130_manual.pdf" rel="nofollow ugc">http://tascam.com/content/downloads/products/325/130_manual.pdf</a><br />
They actually did a nice automation thing with the monitoring, which can be overridden at any time with the front panel button. When it&#8217;s in rec-pause, it automatically monitors the source. When it&#8217;s in rec, it switches to monitor the tape. When it&#8217;s in play, it monitors the tape. The front panel button allows switching back and forth by the user.</p>
<p>&#8212; Tom Fine</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Sep 2013 11:53:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.preservationsound.com/new-video-the-4-track-in-2013-featuring-john-panos-aka-kings/#comment-178934&quot;&gt;Tom Fine&lt;/a&gt;.

Great advice tom - thank you.  I would not have guessed that the 130 is a 3-head, cos there does not appear to be a &quot;tape/input&quot; monitor switch on the front panel?  Is it hidden?
And I am gonna look into NJ Factory Service  - I was not aware of them, thanks!  c.]]></description>
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<p>Great advice tom &#8211; thank you.  I would not have guessed that the 130 is a 3-head, cos there does not appear to be a &#8220;tape/input&#8221; monitor switch on the front panel?  Is it hidden?<br />
And I am gonna look into NJ Factory Service  &#8211; I was not aware of them, thanks!  c.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Sep 2013 15:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.preservationsound.com/new-video-the-4-track-in-2013-featuring-john-panos-aka-kings/#comment-177719&quot;&gt;chris&lt;/a&gt;.

Chris, one good three-head model that shows up often is the Tascam 130. This was their late-era budget-priced but still good-quality deck for broadcast and church production. It didn&#039;t have the features or the hearty mechanism of a 122mkIII (their best 3-head deck), but it will easily serve the purpose I described above, and the sound quality is quite good. I&#039;ve had one of these for a while and am using it in a large-scale cassette transfer project right now. You can get one non-working for almost nothing (the thing most likely to break is the motor and/or cam that raises the head into the cassette well) and Russ at NJ Factory Service can restore it for about a C-note.

As far as consumer 3-head decks, they were mostly top-end so therefore not as common as 2-head decks. Technics, Pioneer, Teac and Nak had 3-heads in the middle of their ranges.

Between the variety of cassette tape types, and three different NR options on later-era decks (no NR, Dolby B, Dolby C), there are a lot of different &quot;sound flavors&quot; to be gotten out of a cassette deck.

-- Tom Fine]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.preservationsound.com/new-video-the-4-track-in-2013-featuring-john-panos-aka-kings/#comment-177719">chris</a>.</p>
<p>Chris, one good three-head model that shows up often is the Tascam 130. This was their late-era budget-priced but still good-quality deck for broadcast and church production. It didn&#8217;t have the features or the hearty mechanism of a 122mkIII (their best 3-head deck), but it will easily serve the purpose I described above, and the sound quality is quite good. I&#8217;ve had one of these for a while and am using it in a large-scale cassette transfer project right now. You can get one non-working for almost nothing (the thing most likely to break is the motor and/or cam that raises the head into the cassette well) and Russ at NJ Factory Service can restore it for about a C-note.</p>
<p>As far as consumer 3-head decks, they were mostly top-end so therefore not as common as 2-head decks. Technics, Pioneer, Teac and Nak had 3-heads in the middle of their ranges.</p>
<p>Between the variety of cassette tape types, and three different NR options on later-era decks (no NR, Dolby B, Dolby C), there are a lot of different &#8220;sound flavors&#8221; to be gotten out of a cassette deck.</p>
<p>&#8212; Tom Fine</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Sep 2013 22:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m loving these videos. Very inspiring! Cheers - Tim]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Aug 2013 10:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
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Hi steve.  That is an excellent point. I have yet to find any scully-folk who want to talk.  So ladies &amp; gents, if yr out there and you want to go on record, drop us a line!]]></description>
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<p>Hi steve.  That is an excellent point. I have yet to find any scully-folk who want to talk.  So ladies &#038; gents, if yr out there and you want to go on record, drop us a line!</p>
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