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	Comments on: Saul Marantz and The Roots of Great Design	</title>
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		By: Don Bell		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Don Bell]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[The article on a custom recording console by Bill Dillie is interesting.  He went on to found SpectraSonics.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The article on a custom recording console by Bill Dillie is interesting.  He went on to found SpectraSonics.</p>
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		By: Bill Steffey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill Steffey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2014 19:50:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[That pix of saul marantz looks to have john eargle of JBL introducing saul.]]></description>
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		By: New York City Tours &#124; newyorkcitytours-abc.com		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[New York City Tours &#124; newyorkcitytours-abc.com]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Nov 2013 03:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: FT Underwood		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[FT Underwood]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2012 03:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The old AES journals and those of the IEEE &quot;Audio Working Group&quot; (or some such)  are hugely useful sources of information,  but sadly, they are very expensive because you have to be a member to get hold of them. Only academic/scholarly libraries have them anymore and they won&#039;t provide photo copies without a huge fee because these organizations want money for all this old information. It is quite expensive to join and you still have to pay for each downloaded article or buy the Journals at a high price.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The old AES journals and those of the IEEE &#8220;Audio Working Group&#8221; (or some such)  are hugely useful sources of information,  but sadly, they are very expensive because you have to be a member to get hold of them. Only academic/scholarly libraries have them anymore and they won&#8217;t provide photo copies without a huge fee because these organizations want money for all this old information. It is quite expensive to join and you still have to pay for each downloaded article or buy the Journals at a high price.</p>
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		By: chris		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2011 03:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.preservationsound.com/saul-marantz-and-the-roots-of-great-design/#comment-9389&quot;&gt;f de with&lt;/a&gt;.

hi there.  I am not exactly sure what you are asking me for.  I don&#039;t have any unique photos of saul marantz.  The scans I posted are from the AES journal.  IF you can re-phrase your request in more clear terms I would be happy to try and help however I can.  best wishes, c.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.preservationsound.com/saul-marantz-and-the-roots-of-great-design/#comment-9389">f de with</a>.</p>
<p>hi there.  I am not exactly sure what you are asking me for.  I don&#8217;t have any unique photos of saul marantz.  The scans I posted are from the AES journal.  IF you can re-phrase your request in more clear terms I would be happy to try and help however I can.  best wishes, c.</p>
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		By: f de with		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2011 19:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dear mister ,can you send me per email the photo,s take by you from marantz folder ect ,we are gone make a special sacd on the 100 birthday of mister saul marantz
ofcourse we wil put your name in the booklet and sen you the sacd..
thanks]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear mister ,can you send me per email the photo,s take by you from marantz folder ect ,we are gone make a special sacd on the 100 birthday of mister saul marantz<br />
ofcourse we wil put your name in the booklet and sen you the sacd..<br />
thanks</p>
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		By: Roger Russton		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roger Russton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Oct 2011 00:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Marantz and McIntosh were the premier builders of hi-fi equipment in the United States, in terms of quality and industry presence. (Dynaco sold more units, and probably made more net spendable, but their business and production methods were hinky in the extreme.)  McIntosh is still an independently run business building everything in its own plant in upstate New York, although ownership is actually-gasp-Denon Marantz of Japan.

 But the Marantz in Denon Marantz is only a name. Saul Marantz was effectively put out of business by his own desire for perfection, high unit costs, and a product that turned out to be heinously expensive to produce (the fabled 10-B tuner). 

 Marantz had a plant in NYC itself, and used the most expensive components in his products, which were never designed for cost effectiveness or manufacturability. 

 McIntosh were of the Scots school that an engineer was someone who could do for a shilling what any bloody fool could do for a pound, and used innovative design, vertical manufacturing in upstate New York, attractive cosmetics and a bold ad campaign &quot;informed&quot; by General Semantics to provide maximum delta between sale price and build cost.  McIntosh products were built like a Fender guitar amp, all consumer grade parts, but conservatively rated. They often lasted longer than Marantz&#039;s because of that, and a certain basic elegant simplicity you don&#039;t find in Marantz. 

 In one instance-the Marantz 7 and McIntosh C-22 preamps-we have products with nearly identical design which allows a good comparison. A Marantz 7 has twice the build cost and then some. Does it work twice as well? No, but it does work better. 

 The modern hobbyist could excel either with a little determination, and a willingness to buy a bill of material that would have blanched either company. He could not have done it then though.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marantz and McIntosh were the premier builders of hi-fi equipment in the United States, in terms of quality and industry presence. (Dynaco sold more units, and probably made more net spendable, but their business and production methods were hinky in the extreme.)  McIntosh is still an independently run business building everything in its own plant in upstate New York, although ownership is actually-gasp-Denon Marantz of Japan.</p>
<p> But the Marantz in Denon Marantz is only a name. Saul Marantz was effectively put out of business by his own desire for perfection, high unit costs, and a product that turned out to be heinously expensive to produce (the fabled 10-B tuner). </p>
<p> Marantz had a plant in NYC itself, and used the most expensive components in his products, which were never designed for cost effectiveness or manufacturability. </p>
<p> McIntosh were of the Scots school that an engineer was someone who could do for a shilling what any bloody fool could do for a pound, and used innovative design, vertical manufacturing in upstate New York, attractive cosmetics and a bold ad campaign &#8220;informed&#8221; by General Semantics to provide maximum delta between sale price and build cost.  McIntosh products were built like a Fender guitar amp, all consumer grade parts, but conservatively rated. They often lasted longer than Marantz&#8217;s because of that, and a certain basic elegant simplicity you don&#8217;t find in Marantz. </p>
<p> In one instance-the Marantz 7 and McIntosh C-22 preamps-we have products with nearly identical design which allows a good comparison. A Marantz 7 has twice the build cost and then some. Does it work twice as well? No, but it does work better. </p>
<p> The modern hobbyist could excel either with a little determination, and a willingness to buy a bill of material that would have blanched either company. He could not have done it then though.</p>
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		By: AES Journals Circa 1965: Microphones &#124; Preservation Sound		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Oct 2010 12:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] earlier post on Saul Marantz discussed the journal of the Audio Engineering Society in general.  This week we are going to take [...]]]></description>
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		By: RIP audio magazine 1947-2000 &#124; Preservation Sound		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RIP audio magazine 1947-2000 &#124; Preservation Sound]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Oct 2010 17:53:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] Because the AES (Audio Engineering Society) began publishing it&#8217;s own journal in 1953.  See my previous post on the AES journal for more information on this great publication.  Anyhow, as Wiki tells us, AUDIO at this point shifted to a more consumer/hobbyist perspective.  [...]]]></description>
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