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	Comments on: UPDATED: So You Want A Good Cheap Ribbon Mic: Upgrading the $69.99 MXL R40	</title>
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		By: Kristian Lakeson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kristian Lakeson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2025 07:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.preservationsound.com/so-you-want-a-good-cheap-ribbon-mic-upgrading-the-69-99-mxl-r40/#comment-231664&quot;&gt;Stephen Cole&lt;/a&gt;.

Very well said Stephen, although this was posted 12 years ago I found it today googling for reviews etc on cheap transformers for ribbon microphones.

Here in Sweden we have Jörgen Thuresson who makes exellent if not the world&#039;s &quot;best&quot; condenser mic&#039;s like CM402 and others, I also have 2 of his 20dB preamps intended for dynamic and ribbons and they really open up and you have the sweetspot on your consoles input micpres as well w. these that sound far better than any other on the market!

Cheers Kristian Lakeson]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.preservationsound.com/so-you-want-a-good-cheap-ribbon-mic-upgrading-the-69-99-mxl-r40/#comment-231664">Stephen Cole</a>.</p>
<p>Very well said Stephen, although this was posted 12 years ago I found it today googling for reviews etc on cheap transformers for ribbon microphones.</p>
<p>Here in Sweden we have Jörgen Thuresson who makes exellent if not the world&#8217;s &#8220;best&#8221; condenser mic&#8217;s like CM402 and others, I also have 2 of his 20dB preamps intended for dynamic and ribbons and they really open up and you have the sweetspot on your consoles input micpres as well w. these that sound far better than any other on the market!</p>
<p>Cheers Kristian Lakeson</p>
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		By: joe		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Oct 2017 16:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just an FYI that the Cascade Fathead II is not $200.  It&#039;s about $450.  The Fathead I is $200.  How much diff between the two I&#039;ve no idea, again just FYI.  

Thx for this info though; I&#039;m not at all inclined to a DIY mic, but the cost savings and interest in ribbon mics means I might try this.  Also I have heard good things about the se X1R ribbon which is only about $230 FYI.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just an FYI that the Cascade Fathead II is not $200.  It&#8217;s about $450.  The Fathead I is $200.  How much diff between the two I&#8217;ve no idea, again just FYI.  </p>
<p>Thx for this info though; I&#8217;m not at all inclined to a DIY mic, but the cost savings and interest in ribbon mics means I might try this.  Also I have heard good things about the se X1R ribbon which is only about $230 FYI.</p>
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		By: bill		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Mar 2017 18:40:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.preservationsound.com/so-you-want-a-good-cheap-ribbon-mic-upgrading-the-69-99-mxl-r40/#comment-233187&quot;&gt;Stephen Cole&lt;/a&gt;.

Stephen, where is your blog with recommendations, tests and what not? I want to buy everything you recommend.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.preservationsound.com/so-you-want-a-good-cheap-ribbon-mic-upgrading-the-69-99-mxl-r40/#comment-233187">Stephen Cole</a>.</p>
<p>Stephen, where is your blog with recommendations, tests and what not? I want to buy everything you recommend.</p>
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		By: Ralph Gonzalez		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ralph Gonzalez]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2017 04:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I just replaced the stock transformer on a MXL R150 (same internals as R144), using the Shinhom T25 from pfsonics.com. I measured the frequency response, sensitivity, and noise before and after the mod using pink noise at the same mic distance.

There was perhaps a 1 dB increase in sensitivity but otherwise no discernible change in frequency response or S/N ratio. I did not measure distortion so can&#039;t speak to that.

On the other hand a friend used a Lundahl transformer on his R144 and this appears to have had a large impact on sensitivity and actually improved the S/N ratio and reduced &quot;hiss&quot;.

Incidentally I also tried removing the protective mesh screens (no significant change to frequency response) and retensioning the ribbon (mine was a bit saggy, and this increased sensitivity about 1.5 dB).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just replaced the stock transformer on a MXL R150 (same internals as R144), using the Shinhom T25 from pfsonics.com. I measured the frequency response, sensitivity, and noise before and after the mod using pink noise at the same mic distance.</p>
<p>There was perhaps a 1 dB increase in sensitivity but otherwise no discernible change in frequency response or S/N ratio. I did not measure distortion so can&#8217;t speak to that.</p>
<p>On the other hand a friend used a Lundahl transformer on his R144 and this appears to have had a large impact on sensitivity and actually improved the S/N ratio and reduced &#8220;hiss&#8221;.</p>
<p>Incidentally I also tried removing the protective mesh screens (no significant change to frequency response) and retensioning the ribbon (mine was a bit saggy, and this increased sensitivity about 1.5 dB).</p>
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		By: W R Gary		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2016 14:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I did this mod a week ago. I had a few issues with the mounting of the transformer within the small cap that&#039;s used for shielding. 

The original transformer has its wires coming out from the bottom which makes it easy to feed the wires through the cap.  The Edcore mounts its wires from the sides and I spent an hour maneuvering the wires so the transformer could mount deep enough in the cap so the cap could be screwed back in place on the mic housing. Backing off the screw that mounts the PCB board helped allot. I then tacked the PCB in place with two small drops of CA glue. 

The frequency response definitely increased in the upper mids and highs which is what makes the signal louder. Recording results were much brighter sounding more like a Condenser. 

I&#039;m not sure I like the results for vocals yet.   In retrospect I should have done this mod to the R144 instead of the R40.  I liked the results I got with the R40 over the R144 because it gave me a rich tone to my voice.  I bought the 144 cheap because it had a broken ribbon and replaced it with 2.5 micron which gave it a midrange bump that sounded a bit metallic.  I replaced the R40 with a 1.6 micron ribbon and it was ideal for my voice. 

I may wind up swapping the Edcor transformer into the R144 then either using the R144 transformer in the original transformer in the R40. 

I will need to do a little more experimentation first. I wasn&#039;t happy with the first results with the Edcor in the R40 but having listened to a finished recording and comparing it to another done with the original transformer it does stand out in the mix better. I did have to EQ it more but the final results for that particular song weren&#039;t bad. 

I may have to take a song recorded with the original transformer, then add a track using the new transformer so I can A/B compare the two more closely using a frequency analyzer.  I like being able to use minimal processing to get good results when mixing because transparency is preserved. 

I will say this upgrade will be ideal if the mic is used for recording instruments, especially guitar or drums. Its just my particular voice already has too much upper mids and the original transformer scooped them right where they were needed]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did this mod a week ago. I had a few issues with the mounting of the transformer within the small cap that&#8217;s used for shielding. </p>
<p>The original transformer has its wires coming out from the bottom which makes it easy to feed the wires through the cap.  The Edcore mounts its wires from the sides and I spent an hour maneuvering the wires so the transformer could mount deep enough in the cap so the cap could be screwed back in place on the mic housing. Backing off the screw that mounts the PCB board helped allot. I then tacked the PCB in place with two small drops of CA glue. </p>
<p>The frequency response definitely increased in the upper mids and highs which is what makes the signal louder. Recording results were much brighter sounding more like a Condenser. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure I like the results for vocals yet.   In retrospect I should have done this mod to the R144 instead of the R40.  I liked the results I got with the R40 over the R144 because it gave me a rich tone to my voice.  I bought the 144 cheap because it had a broken ribbon and replaced it with 2.5 micron which gave it a midrange bump that sounded a bit metallic.  I replaced the R40 with a 1.6 micron ribbon and it was ideal for my voice. </p>
<p>I may wind up swapping the Edcor transformer into the R144 then either using the R144 transformer in the original transformer in the R40. </p>
<p>I will need to do a little more experimentation first. I wasn&#8217;t happy with the first results with the Edcor in the R40 but having listened to a finished recording and comparing it to another done with the original transformer it does stand out in the mix better. I did have to EQ it more but the final results for that particular song weren&#8217;t bad. </p>
<p>I may have to take a song recorded with the original transformer, then add a track using the new transformer so I can A/B compare the two more closely using a frequency analyzer.  I like being able to use minimal processing to get good results when mixing because transparency is preserved. </p>
<p>I will say this upgrade will be ideal if the mic is used for recording instruments, especially guitar or drums. Its just my particular voice already has too much upper mids and the original transformer scooped them right where they were needed</p>
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		By: Sean		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jun 2016 03:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Does EDCOR still sell these transformers?  Not having much luck finding them . . .]]></description>
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		By: Bow		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Mar 2016 05:14:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I just performed this modification on my MXL R40, installing the Edcor RMX-1 transformer.

Just as a note for anyone else doing this, it may be worth your time to take the head basket off and look at the ribbon itself; my was loose and sagging, sagging as far as being almost out of the magnets at the deepest part of the sag.  

I was able to re-tension the ribbon by loosening the top clamp piece and pulling on a bit of the tab that was left by the manufacture.  You just need to tighten it enough to remove the sag, but NOT pull the pleats out of the ribbon material. A 

Word of caution, keep positive control of your screwdriver when near the magnets, or it will pull the screwdriver into the ribbon, then you will be replacing the ribbon material...


Great website and thank you for posting this modification, I had performed the same transformer modification to a NADY RMS-4 a number of years ago with outstanding results.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just performed this modification on my MXL R40, installing the Edcor RMX-1 transformer.</p>
<p>Just as a note for anyone else doing this, it may be worth your time to take the head basket off and look at the ribbon itself; my was loose and sagging, sagging as far as being almost out of the magnets at the deepest part of the sag.  </p>
<p>I was able to re-tension the ribbon by loosening the top clamp piece and pulling on a bit of the tab that was left by the manufacture.  You just need to tighten it enough to remove the sag, but NOT pull the pleats out of the ribbon material. A </p>
<p>Word of caution, keep positive control of your screwdriver when near the magnets, or it will pull the screwdriver into the ribbon, then you will be replacing the ribbon material&#8230;</p>
<p>Great website and thank you for posting this modification, I had performed the same transformer modification to a NADY RMS-4 a number of years ago with outstanding results.</p>
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		By: Matti		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matti]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2015 10:08:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s an article of modding a Cascade Fat Head type lollipop ribbon mic. Includes transformer upgrade an 2.5-1.8-1.2 and 0.8 micron ribbon installations. A 2.5 vs 0.8 comparison video with Logic Pro X analysis tools  is provided.

http://riikari.fi/mark]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s an article of modding a Cascade Fat Head type lollipop ribbon mic. Includes transformer upgrade an 2.5-1.8-1.2 and 0.8 micron ribbon installations. A 2.5 vs 0.8 comparison video with Logic Pro X analysis tools  is provided.</p>
<p><a href="http://riikari.fi/mark" rel="nofollow ugc">http://riikari.fi/mark</a></p>
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		By: John X		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John X]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2015 19:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.preservationsound.com/so-you-want-a-good-cheap-ribbon-mic-upgrading-the-69-99-mxl-r40/#comment-293547&quot;&gt;RDC&lt;/a&gt;.

Here is a comparison between transformer mods in an MXL R-144  recording drums you can hear the difference between the original transformer and the mods;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRCFZY3wH4o]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.preservationsound.com/so-you-want-a-good-cheap-ribbon-mic-upgrading-the-69-99-mxl-r40/#comment-293547">RDC</a>.</p>
<p>Here is a comparison between transformer mods in an MXL R-144  recording drums you can hear the difference between the original transformer and the mods;<br />
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRCFZY3wH4o" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRCFZY3wH4o</a></p>
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		By: RDC		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2015 04:00:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve had one of these ribbons with an upgraded transformer and one with just the head basket mod and one stock. The transformer mod produced very subtle, barely noticeable improvement. The one with the headbasket mod sounded significantly better than either of the other two. Leads me to conclude the head basket mod (removing the inner layer of screen) results in a much more significant improvement in the sound than changing the transformer.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve had one of these ribbons with an upgraded transformer and one with just the head basket mod and one stock. The transformer mod produced very subtle, barely noticeable improvement. The one with the headbasket mod sounded significantly better than either of the other two. Leads me to conclude the head basket mod (removing the inner layer of screen) results in a much more significant improvement in the sound than changing the transformer.</p>
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